Most people are opposed to mandatory spay/neuter laws for pets because it would be difficult to enforce?
colebolegooglygooglyhammerhead asked:
Or it would be “too controlling.” Others feel that it would take companion animals to “extinction.” Would there be a way to enforce the neutering of pets, and the licensing of breeders?
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Or it would be “too controlling.” Others feel that it would take companion animals to “extinction.” Would there be a way to enforce the neutering of pets, and the licensing of breeders?
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i would love for it to be that way. that breeders have to be licensed to breed, and any companion owners have to spay/neuter. but i don’t forsee that ever happening. people will just go around the law to make money, or just be plain stupid.
in my little world, i would love for a third law that says before anyone can adopt/buy any kind of pet, they have to pass a test on their knowledge of the animal/care/training….
but thats just me
I think you should have to get your pet spayed or neutered unless you are a breeder. That would get rid of a lot of millers! I think I got my pup from a backyard breeder so to speak. The home looked horrible. We only saw the outside (I can’t imagine the inside) and I truly feel like I rescued my puppy from that dirty place.
We are no where near having an extinction problem with companion animals, so that worry can be put to rest for a good long while.
In New Hampshires the spay/neuter promoting has gone so well that they don’t have nearly the number of excess pets they do in the south. They and other new England states are having great success by promoting and encouraging spay/neuter.
Breeders and fanciers are a problem because they want to continue to breed their dogs at will. The thing is, even if the breeding of purebreds is allowed, do we really want a world where there are no more lovable mutts? I don’t.
The cities I am familiar with that have them there is a fine if your pet is picked up or a neglect call and the animal control officer finds its not altered. Other than that they can’t go door to door. Every decent breeder should have rave reviews from their animal control officer which is where licensing would begin.
That would be a great idea.
That would be a “meet you in the middle” if you will.
It would still be hard to enforce, but a little easier now that you are not forcing all breeders, rep and byb to spay/neuter. I think that all states and cities should have dog lis. laws. All pet quality dogs should be spayed/neutered.
Also i feel that the gov should give tax breaks for people who get their dogs and cats fixed.
Also breeders should have to proov that they are rep.
This should not be a problem for breeders that are rep.
I dont know if its a good thing or bad thing but, I’ve been told some pet stores are now spay/neutering dogs and cats before they can be sold. What’s your thoughts on that?
I think responsible breeder are already doing this by incorporating spay/neuter contracts into the sales contracts and refunding money once this has been done- many even send them to the buyer neutered. Pounds/Shelters/Rescues are also doing their part- with mandatory spay/neuter.
So WHO is causing this problem- Backyard breeders, petstores, puppymills. I think it should be illegal to sell a dog at a petstore- that would stop alot of puppymills and make people find real breeders to buy from. Having to go to that extra effort makes it less likely the puppy will be dumped. I also think that in order to breed you should have to prove that minimally the dogs are healthy- they should require certification scores and genetic testing. Breeders certified under the agricultural section or whatever should have to prove that their dogs have had all this testing done as part of their reviews- this would also discourage them as there is little to no profit to be made from breeding responsibly.
All people who buy intact dogs should be put on a list and be forced to spay/neuter by age 2 at the latest (because some large breeds may need the growing time) and newspapers should be required to have proof of certification/genetic testing in order to place ‘puppies for sale’ ads. Vets should require paperwork for each dog they see proving the testing/certification of parents and report the breeders of dogs who’s puppies do not have this paperwork done. Their should be major fines for first offenses and community service for second, third offense= jail time.
Of course this would take money to enforce but I’d rather have my tax money go there then to pay for the euthanization of animals in county shelters.
Commercial breeding kennels in many states are already being licensed.
Hopefully someday every state will pass a bill like California’s AB1634 so that they can take the hobby, backyard and puppy mill breeders right out of the market.
i am a firm believer in having most pets neutared it would stop these pets having pups that are unwanted and hopefully stop people breeding just so they can make money ha ha.
if people want to breed i think they should have to take a test to show they know what it involves and i think breeders should have a commitment to follow up to make sure that dogs are neutered before they are 6months and bitches are done after first season unless they are especily kept for breeding unless they have passed a breeders cert. in the horse/cattle world your not allowed to keep a entire unless it as been vetted and passed so come on kc/government do something now
i dont know about the way to do it, but i do think it would be a good idea to enforce it on ordinary owners. i dont think it would lead animals to extintion, there are plenty or registered breeders now to continue pretty much any breed. i think it would make the breed more pure for that matter. with all the puppy mills nowadays you dont even really know if the dog you get from a pet store is pure bred or not. i am all for it.
i do have 2 shi tzus a boy and a girl, both are fixed.
What they mean when they say “To difficult to enforce” is that they can’t tell a pet owner that they can’t breed. Also they don’t have enough staff to enforce such law.
I think if you tell people ” It’s you or your dog, one of you is getting spayed / neutered ” People would be inclined to have their pets done..
The pet owners who are causing the over population problem don’t follow current laws…..like the leash law, rabies vaccinations, licensing. So how would passing another law help? It would only affect those who are law abiding to start with.
I feel if animal control could get the funding and man power to enforce the leash law, we could eliminate most the over population problem. If dogs and cats were not roaming the streets, they would not be having puppies/kittens.
“Extinction”?
Personally, I would LOVE to see each and every shelter and rescue group go out of business. I would LOVE for each and every dog and cat out there to have a home.
It will never happen, though, because of the fear-mongering and self-righteous justification of irresponsible breeders who do not take responsiblity for their contributions to the deaths of millions of dogs and cats every year.
I am very against legislation such as this.
Laws like this will end up promoting mass-breeders and hindering small reputable breeders. It will end up having the opposite affect that people think it will have.
Not to mention, it will be nearly impossible to enforce. I don’t want my veterinarian giving out my person information, that’s like your doctor having over your medical records contact information to anyone who walks in the door. Violation of privacy.
If the government did try to enforce it through veterinary medical records, it would end up being counter-productive because some the people who don’t want to spay/neuter their pet just simply wouldn’t take it to the vet for vaccinations anymore. Maybe they would order their own vaccinations, or maybe their dog would just go without.
Also, I don’t agree with this being something that the government should be involved in. Government has no place to tell people to spay/neuter their pets. What will be next, that people need to get a license from the government to have children? I don’t believe in giving up my freedoms. Some laws are necessary to keep the peace, but a law requiring your pet to be spayed/neutered is not the government’s business.
My personal view is that if you have a pet that is not breeding/show quality, or if you have a breeding/show quality pet that you are not going to breed, it should be spayed or neutered. It’s up to individuals to do this though. Education is the key. If people buy pets from reputable breeders rather than puppymills, the animals not intended to be bred will come with a spay/neuter contract. Education is the key, not an unenforceable law.